I’m not sure if “reading BS” is a learned quality or an innate one, but if it’s innate, I certainly don’t have it, and hope it is something I can learn. I am not a pessimistic person, I think of the glass as half-full and try to keep my mind is positive as possible, whenever possible. But sometimes I think that gets me in trouble because I take others’ words and actions at face value and don’t think about what the motives behind those actions might be – either for the good or for the bad.
Where is this ramble going? Well, for one, it’s a general observation of myself I’ve started to see more lately, especially as I continue the dating thing, and two, it’s directly related to boy #7. He’s being vague and wishy-washy, and just today, he’s not returning my calls or texts. I thought perhaps he was different, and said what he meant, and meant what he said, but I guess that may not be true (OR I could be being pessimistic, but as noted above, I’m not normally a pessimist!) after all. I’ve gone through our earlier email exchanges, and re-read his match.com profile, and he just seemed so normal, and not “like that” (to ditch and run so to speak), but perhaps it was all BS and I just don’t have a good BS detector (maybe I need an upgrade…!).
But for me, the struggle with honesty, and taking others’ words at face value vs. thinking about what they REALLY might mean, is, where is that line? Where do you go from actually believing what others say because you trust that what they are saying is true, to reading between the lines on what is being said or done? Does everyone really need a touch of pessimism in their lives so they don’t get caught in a situation where something doesn’t turn out as though it seems? Or, is it really just something you learn – you just figure out when someone’s telling the truth vs. BS’ing you by going through it and learning from it? It’s something I ponder, because either way, there’s a downside – a) you become a pessimist and never think there is anything good in people or b) you believe what you are told and learn from it (and possibly get burned in the process…every single time).
So, the optimist in me is hoping I’m jumping to conclusions re: boy #7 but if I’m not, then it’s dissapointing that this is who he really is – a jerk! – but, if that’s who he is, I don’t want him anyway, and he’s not worth my time. Beyond boy #7, I do think I need to learn more about reading people, I guess, and figuring out what’s true, and what’s not, and if that comes with time, I need patience!
October 5, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Jo, I dealt with this on one or two occasions when I got back into dating and it was frustrating for me as well. Admittedly, I am not as much of a “glass is half full” person as you are, I tried to take people for face value because I was being honest and assumed the same from the guy…unfortunately, I don’t think many people now a days are into being upfront and honest (for some unknown reason). When you find one though, it’s refreshing! Guys are just dumb sometimes
October 5, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Thanks Ames and Dan…it is frustrating that at this age, people are still immature, aren’t honest, and don’t give people common courtesy. I mean, I could be wrong in this particular situation, but I think the writing’s on the wall. Not worth my time if so!!
October 5, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Well, you being an optomistic ollie, like me, detecting BS is definitely a learned trait. And losing your optimism is a choice you make, you can keep it, but still be cautious.
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October 7, 2009 at 1:14 am
Too bad about boy #7 but remember your resolutions about dating – I’m not setting any expectations and I’m just having fun. Don’t get hung on him … plenty more fish in the sea for you.
October 7, 2009 at 1:21 am
this is true, very true, Mandy! part of why I was so annoyed that I got annoyed about it in the first place
bigger and better!!!
October 7, 2009 at 2:48 pm
It’s natural to believe people when they say things. I’m obsessed with urban legends, and have realized that (almost) every interesting story I’ve ever heard is a lie. So I’m very cautious about believing stuff.
And even then, I still find myself getting taken in by people. It’s only when their story starts not making sense that I get confused, because I always go with the assumption that they’re honest. When things don’t compute, it takes me a while to turn on the BS detector.
You’re right: there has to be a balance between believing in people and protecting yourself. It’s tough to know where to draw that line.
October 7, 2009 at 2:55 pm
completely agree – it’s hard to tell fact from fiction when it sounds so real..and maybe parts of what boy #7 said were true, but what his goal was, was clearly not what he said – actions vs. words – very different!
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October 31, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I know this is sort of after the fact…but this post was a reminded me that it’s not necessarily the BS that you have to spot up front. People say a lot of things, and since we have no reason to believe otherwise, we do take them at face value.
However, because actions speak louder than words – as shown by this boy you wrote about – People will always SHOW you their BS. Learning to recognize *that* can be valuable, and when you do you also begin to see the red flags earlier on – one’s that may have been disguised before. = )
October 31, 2009 at 10:21 pm
that is an excellent point – and SO TRUE! I can definitely see the red flags a bit earlier too. Just sad, I guess, that people aren’t as upfront as they should be!!
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